Today we’re chatting with one of the most creative magicians on the planet! Mario the Maker Magician is on this episode of Magicians Talking Magic!
Host Graeme Reed and Mario the Maker Magician discuss performing online and how to rock the new virtual space. Mario demonstrates with his DIY robotic and recycled creations that your imagination, branding and owning your niche is key to success in the magic industry!
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Graeme Reed: You are So busy. I mean, you were very busy beforehand with your punk rock and roll Magic style tour going across the States and even up into Canada and everything lecturing, but now you seem to be even busier online with this Believeable Maker camp. That seems absolutely incredible for families and kids globally right now.
Yeah. Yeah. I feel really lucky, really lucky. I'm a Maker magazine Maker has changed my life early on, got me into three D printing and programming with their Maker magazine. Um, uh, I would have never dreamed all these years later to be an emcee for their family Maker camp brand ambassador. You know, we're trying to push, uh, the young and young at hearts to get into making as early as possible. And what's so powerful about only Maker camp right now is that all kids are stuck at home. And like there's a lot of parents that I've never homeschooled before. You know, we've been homeschooling for two years cause we travel full time with our family, you know? So it's just so exciting for us as a family, Katie and I both to be, to be able to give back and like encourage the parents. And, and then we have the Maker parent happy hour on Wednesdays where parents can come in and ask questions. And, and uh, so it's been a real, as much as it's been a downtime for so many people, we're trying to flip it positive
Maker camp. Isn't just for kids, but it's really adults too. And everyone can join in because you and Katie are offering incredible value through Maker camp as well.
Mario The Maker Magician: Yeah, that's correct. So on Wednesday nights we've been doing this happy hour thing and it was really fun. And, and this all started with me desperately after two weeks of losing all my work, uh, doing a punk rock dance party on a Facebook live event. Like we just went live. I had kids comment, funny words, and I just played the same four chords seeing off the top of my brain freestyle. And I had no idea that like people were actually paying attention and this awesome department store, this department store in New York city called camp. They're like, I love them. They have a great thing where, what they do for kids in New York city. And, uh, and they reached out to us trying to say, Hey, I'd like this dance party thing. And I was like, dad's part number Magician you know? So like, so now we're like, including this whole other medium in performance, I never did music before, but you know what I'm learning about this whole virtual thing right now, it's not even about the Magic it's about how much can we interact live in the moment because people are craving that so much.
Graeme Reed: It's personal connection, right? Like we're doing right now. This is kind of the heart of everything I feel like. So we can maintain our sanity.
It's so interesting that you have started going to more music and I've been watching along and your improv skills are just uncanny. You're so fast. And for people that tune in, we'll see like a Tony Clifton marionette, we know that you're a huge fan of Dylan and everything. Is that a big part of your background? These really creative artists and improv comics and things like that?
Mario The Maker Magician: Oh, hundred percent. A hundred percent. I mean, I just, I spent my twenties playing in a punk band, just screaming in a microphone, making no money, you know, like I just love eccentrics, you know, as you can, you know, you know, my life, I had like a fricking, I gotta bring any like Talking robot tables sitting right there that I can ask questions and be like, mr. Table, are you excited to be here? You know? And he'll like answer some times and sometimes they're go see, but yeah, I mean, the idea is like, you know, you know, the idea is like finding what you love, no matter how far reaching it is from where you're at and just pushing towards what you love right now, you know, like, don't ignore what you love right now, you know? And, uh, and so like, and, and it goes back to the whole music thing.
There was a time in my life where all I played was music. I never did a single magic trick. I didn't get it to Magic till I was 22, you know, but then I just dropped the guitar and it's been 12 years. I haven't touched a guitar. And all of a sudden note, the skills that I learned all the way back then that I thought were forgotten are w one of the most essential things that have helped me get work in a time where I desperately need it. You know? So what am I trying to say? I'm trying to say that like every talent you learn in your life will never get wasted. You'll always find, it'll always come back. Where are you going to need it? You know? And that's something early on. Um, uh, someone told me that was a lot older than me went out in my teens.
It was like, you never waste talent that you learn. Like you're going to end up seeing how your story is going to unfold, and you're going to end up using it in a way that you never thought. But anyway, you know, that that's, that's, what's hitting me these past couple of weeks, you know, programming things. Did that come at the exact same time as Magic? Or was that kind of, even from the music background as well, because in music you have to be creative with your technology as well. Um, you know, it was, it was like two different paths. So I was getting into Magic working, uh, you know, early on I was working for UN agencies and I was trying, you know, my dream right. Was to just pay my rent, doing what I love. That's what was my dream in my twenties? You know, my father is a stone Mason, you know, like watching him, we're coming from a different country coming from Italy.
Like it was hard for him, you know? And so like in my brain, the only thing that was more important than education, anything was like, I need to do what I love for a living. And when I found Magic, um, uh, I, the birthday parties were where the money was at that time, you know? So like all these Magicians don't want to do kid's parties, you know, they want to like, they, they look at kids' parties as a stepping stone, you know, they don't look at kids' parties as something of value that can define you. You know, it's almost like if, you know, when you go to Magic, Avention the PE they don't even, they're like embarrassed to talk about kids, parties, you know, because it's almost like an, you know, it's like this thing that makes you less better than them or something, you know?
And, uh, what I learned was I don't care what other people think. You know, I care about what my dreams are. My dreams are to pay my rent, doing what I love. So what happened? All these Magicians gave me their kids parties. And then after six, seven months, I'm paying half of my rent, you know, and I only have to work part time at a coffee shop. You know, that's a powerful thing, you know? And, uh, and then Katie and I got married and, and Katie's looking at these agencies saying, you know what? I think we could cold call the schools. Maybe we can cold call these camps, and maybe we can get all of that money instead of only 40% of what you're getting. And that's how the ball started rolling, you know? And, and let me tell you something else that's interesting is that I didn't want to do kids.
Magic I want it to be like David Glade, you know, like it's special came out just like he changed everyone's lives when they came up. But what did I realize was that the very thing I was running away from, you know, was the very reason why I'm alive, you know, and my job is to make kids laugh. You know, that's it, like once I realized that that the audience creates the performer, it's not me. That creates what I want to be. We listened to the audience attentively. All of a sudden, my life changed. I switched my, because we think we know what we want in life, but we don't know what we need. You know what I'm saying? So, yeah. So that was a very big changing point for me. Like I, you know, once I accepted the fact that I don't care what everyone else thinks about this form of Magic, I care about what I'm feeling. And, and then, and then look, you know, like all these years later, like I get to do a party with David plain, you know, that's like, you know, like, so I didn't become David Blaine, like the, be the butt, but like, it was like, the universe was saying to me, like giving me a kick, like, Hey, your on the right path, you know, kind of thing. So that definitely,
Graeme Reed: That's absolutely inspiring. I think for a lot of us, because I know as Magicians me being a Magician myself, we always struggle with, well, how do people will perceive me? What do I want to do? And we see a lot of, Magicians probably struggle with their image and what they want to do. And a lot of them aren't being their true selves throughout Magic. We can see who the real stars are. Magic cause they're the ones that shine like yourself and all these big names.
Mario The Maker Magician: No, all the time. Right? Well, you tapped on something gold right there. Like maybe the things that are separating other performances, like you just said, like they're not being their true self, you know, and maybe that's because of fear, you know, things that they're afraid of. They're afraid of what people might think. Like, like me getting into robots, it took three years, like Katie out of frustration was like, you need to use, this are doing, Oh, crap. And put it in your show, you know? Okay. Everyone's doing hippity hop rabbits, add the LEDs to it, program it, make it, do something, you know? So, you know, because I was so scared and it's even let me tell you some, even the way I looked when I did kid's parties was a white button down shirt, like super rigidly dressed because I'm looking at everyone else. I want people to think I'm looking proper. And then I had to tear that part of me to where I want to be me, you and then I started wearing, ripped up jeans with a suit on it, like things slowly, these little baby steps. And then what would happen is when I liberated that was that I became better and I became more free. And then I became more confident, you know? And I think that's the big key with performing is how do we attain that confidence on stage, you know,
Graeme Reed: And your live streams too. I think out of a Magician that's doing live streams or create a person is doing live streams. You've successfully taken your personality and transitioned it to over camera so well.
Mario The Maker Magician: Oh, awesome. Thanks. That means so much, man. I mean so much. And I I'm scared every time I go on I'm like so nervous, you know, because just like all of us are that have never done the video stuff, you know? Uh, that's why, like I admire people like Xavier spades so much, like he's groundbreaking to me always since I met him the way he not only does Magic, but he also just strips away. The ego talks about his own personal struggle struggles, and he's changing people's lives, you know, outside of Magic, you know, there's I met people that go to conventions just to see Xavier, not even this, the other performance that says the Lord about somebody, you know, uh, tapping into this technology, you know,
Graeme Reed: While you have this downtime, you're still, you're still busy. Cause you're still homeschooling two kids. You still have your business. You're doing live streams and you're heavily involved. I mean, you gave us time for this interview, which is awesome. Do you have an aspect of your business now that you maybe have some down time that you can focus on? Um, are you focusing, are you changing up your show at all? Or are you focusing on this business aspect?
Mario The Maker Magician: Um, what's exciting is that I have a room full of broken robots that I've never made an it's all like I have this, like I have this robot dove that I built like two years ago out of a pizza box or we know, you know, so now I'm doing like a dump switch. Like I produced the robot on camera. It turns into the real bird, you know, I showed you the robot table. I mean, I have this drum machine, this, I always wanted this in my show. I just brought it back to life. It does drum rolls on command. That's amazing. And like, if I say a joke, he could do a rim shot, you know, like blah, blah, blah, blah, blah, punchline.
So like these are things that I'm bringing back to life, which I, uh, which I'm excited about. And I think a lot of us Magicians are doing that where we're looking at relooking, all these old routines, um, that didn't work. I read a quote. I don't know if it was Mark Twain that said, that said something about if a cat touches a hot stove, it will never touch a hot stove again. And, but that same cat will never touch a cold stove either. You know? And, uh, and, and, and that kind of reminded me, cause there are times in our lives, when we perform a certain trick, we get burned really bad and we throw it out and really it could have just been this unique situation that would have never happened again. And you're missing out on this big opportunity, you know? So these are all my cold stoves trying to like, see how I can possibly adapt it into my show currently, you know,
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Graeme Reed: To close out. You've given us so much inspiration through the whole kind of interview here, but there's a lot of us, Magicians at home right now. And you might go through it too, because I imagine the whole world is this roller coaster of emotions. We're up and down. We're up and down. I remember when I was actually in the office and I watched you on tour, uh, your first year, I think when you had the blue bus and I, there was, you went live in your, on the side of the road and you were changing a tire. And I remember you were completely crushed, but you, you relive the positivity and you brought it back, its for the kids, we're doing this for these performances, for the kids and the Magic and everything. Do you have a message that you could share with all of us Magicians right now are going through a rollercoaster of emotions.
Mario The Maker Magician: Oh man, just be flexible. You know, like that's what I'm learning. Whether it's your spirit, who you are as a person you're business, the people that survive are the people that are flexible with every aspect, the attitude that the way they pursue anything right now in this moment. And, and also what I'm learning is that this is a season, you know, a flower blooms once a year, that's it? You know, this is a season where we're all being planted in the dark earth as the seed dying to ourselves. And eventually we grow out into the sun, you know, and what I'm saying to you is that, what are you going to do when the sun comes back? You know, like, how are you going to remember this time? You know, do things so that when you think about it in your mind for the rest of your life, that you took advantage of this time, you know, and uh, and maybe taking advantage of this time means you sit on the couch and you watch tiger King. Maybe that's what it is because you spent your life being so crazy and busy this whole time. And now the universe stopped everything. Maybe it's your time to just sit, you know, and wait and be flexible, man. I'm learning too. I'm talking to myself when I'm talking on the camera, I'm saying this to myself, I'm trying to say this every day, you know, but I hope that's something that you guys can think about. You know,
Graeme Reed: Mario thank you so much for sharing your time with us, sharing your insights, your creativity and your passion. Keep it going. It's unbelievable. It's so cool.
Mario The Maker Magician: Thanks so much. I had a great time chatting with you and I hope we cross paths soon, dude, whether you come to New York or I'm going to Canada!.