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Fenyx Fyre “Innovator of Insanity”

Updated: Nov 7, 2021

Today on Magicians Talking Magic Podcast we are listening in on a conversation with Canadian danger artist, Fenyx Fyre. Graeme Reed recently connected with Christopher Campbell (Fenyx Fyre) to talk about danger art, creativity and mental health.

Known as the “Innovator of Insanity” Chris combines classic danger art with modern-day presentation and technology. In this episode, Chris shares some of his original ideas on classic sideshow stunts.

A lot of us often ask why someone might do these dangerous things? Chris shares how performing dangerous art helps overcome his struggle with Mental Health.

Learn more about Chris or support him by buying some merch at

Audio Transcript Episode 61 with Fenyx Fyre

Graeme Reed: Our guest today has been seen on Amc,  Freak show. He holds countless Guinness world records that none of us even want to admit.

Fenyx Fyre: He bellows Fyre like a dragon and has zero tolerance for pain rising from the ashes, the master of flame Fenyx Fyre AKA Chris Campbell. Thank you so much for coming on. Magicians Talking, Magic, I'm really excited to talk to you today and hear more about your story because I've only met you really once a, well, I will clarify first set, uh, in, as I have more than just Guinness records. Um, I just, I have one is still painting Guinness, but a lot of them are other record companies as well. Cause in us won't touch some of the ones that it's one of those things. I just say I have a multi world record holder just because of the stuff that I do is on the danger realm and they sometimes so, but anyways, no, it's great to great to be on your show. I I'm a big fan of yours. I saw you in London here, um, where I'm from. Uh, I believe it was in June. Margaret, Mary. Yeah. I would talk, man. Like your, your state of presence. You just show her, I, I, you know, for somebody, uh, I hadn't heard about you, but never saw your work life. And you know, for me it was a great cause I had a day that I wasn't performing and I was like, Oh, I'm going to go see friends and got to see her work. And it was amazing. So kudos, man. Thank you.

Graeme Reed: I agree. I appreciate that so much coming from you because I've been watching a lot of your stuff after getting to me

Fenyx Fyre: And you're so incredibly interesting. I was. So you have over 30 Guinness or 30 records, is that right? Over 30 in total, over 30. A lot of them like, you know, ones, I hold the record for most cattle prods and 60 seconds, stuff like that. A lot. I didn't Jordan. I used to hold the world record for the staple, the most on nonsurgical staples that got broken recently. Um, I hold a work or, um, a knife being thrown into my face while I about a block at, at a razorblade in it. And I like goes right up against the takes the razor blade out. Oh, there's so many, uh, straight jacket, inverted, straight jacket. Fyre breathe while I'm so escaping from a straight jacket while I'm fire-breathing inverted. That was the first,

Graeme Reed: Just out of curiosity, who was the sick individual that wanted to break the, uh,

Fenyx Fyre: He's probably one of the best trick night throwers in the world. In my opinion, I'm biased because he's my best friend, but you've talked to anybody. Who's the best trick shot thrower in the world. So anybody next door, go check out jelly, Molson, bad driver. I'm a D E Guiver.

Graeme Reed: Who is, who is that? That's joining us on camera

Fenyx Fyre: There. The set she's got a dirty face because she was eating food, but this is BESTECH. She's my little sinks kitten. And I also have a real Isabella that's in the house as well. So she won't be showing up, but this little baby's, uh, I, I, her a lot. So we've got a great bond going on.

Graeme Reed: Now, your stage persona your character, you go by Fenyx Fyre

Fenyx Fyre: Fenyx Fyre Oh yeah. I let people say what they want. Um, to me, it's not about the name, it's about, uh, the emotions that I provide. Um, I try not to, I really focus on not worrying about my colleagues, think of what I do. And I listened to what my audience wants. My goal is to, um, have people feel emotion, um, to, you know, my show is called the stranger danger, thriller show, stranger danger thrill show. And our hashtag is we touch your emotions inappropriately. So it's a, it's a, and that's, I, I warned people. I started my show that you will feel emotion, whether it's good, bad hatred, Alicia like isolation. Um, I want you to feel that's, that's, you know, I've spent so much of my life hiding from feeling and not wanting to feel. And I think it's healthy to have feel, um, you know, it's to be able to stay in the moment.

I want people to escape, even if for a second in my show and just forget about all, all they're all they're worried about all their worries, all their RNA, everything, and just like have a good time. It's a very audience interactive show. Um, I want people to come up and experience like, know that it's real, you know, although lately I've been included, including a lot of, I don't consider myself a sideshow performer or an escape artist, or, you know, I know a little bit Magician Magic I call myself a danger performer. So cause I want to encompass it all. I think, you know, I think pitching, avoiding someone like myself is letting my audience down. So, you know, I like to come up with, uh, new acts. I really, you know, people, one thing that people say when they come to my show is whenever they come, I always have something new. And I take pride in that, because that means that I care care enough to so how multiple, you know, repeat audience members that want to come back and see what's going to be new. So it's kind of, it benefits me as well, but yeah, same time. It allows people to really see that creativity is a, is an amazing thing.

Graeme Reed: I think that that's one of the amazing things that you have in your show. Almost everything you do is absolutely unique to you. I think

Fenyx Fyre: You've almost created, uh, every routine. I mean, when you think of a danger to suicide short, it's like, Oh, they do that bit or that's done, but it seems like every stunt you have almost crafted a unique thing and you know, you're very good at even mixing, um, like old stunt with new, uh, horror mixed with even technology.

Graeme Reed: Sometimes you, I saw you, you were selling like

Fenyx Fyre: Led blockhead hammers. Yeah. So that, that came out for, um, it was actually, I did a tour with Budweiser, the Budweiser tour. Um, so we were on tour and it was all bars. Um, so really dark darks, um, shows, uh, it was during the Halloween season, um, and a very dark, dark. And I was like, okay. So I want to give, um, the, uh, the ability for people to see from a distance, right? It was like big shows. Like not just, you know, in a bar, close out, walk around and stuff. It was big stuff. So I made this hammer, I modified a kid's toy and, uh, and uh, it worked really well. Um, so then people saw it performers and they, I was getting messages. Hey, can you make me one? Hey, can you make me one? Can you make me? So I ended up making a whole bunch of them. They coming like red, green, or blue. Um, but they're really cool as you tap it, like, as I hit the nail into my head. So it's pretty, it's pretty interesting thing. And I, uh, I enjoy that. I also recently my newest, um, that I'm selling, um, I've had super interested in is in the escape world. So when you think of Houdini, what do you think of you think there was water torture, the portrait chamber as a, as a traveling performer with what's the biggest problem. You have

Graeme Reed: Feeling that towards yourself, filling that thing up with water, the mess, all that

Fenyx Fyre: That's stuff. We've even heard. Matt Johnson. He was on, Britain's got talent. He had his tank break on the stage and everything. Yeah. But what I did, could I show you what I, what I, what I got here, Lee? Yeah, totally. What I did was an old scuba mask. So I took the old mask style escape and I modernized it. So this is one of those QMS that you got. I modified it completely took out all the insides. It's now modified. So water can't escape. And I put a bill Gates. So audience can see the water fill up right in front of them.

Graeme Reed: It seems a little more terrifying and claustrophobic though, too.

Fenyx Fyre: Everybody knows about wearing a scuba mask, right. When you're, when you're out in the water now. Right. Oh, my different feeling because it fills up this way instead of just submersion. Right. That's intense. How long ago did you develop that? Like what what's two years ago and I developed it, it's been over and I've modified it a bit. Um, but it's, uh, I've had people who've seen it, like, you know, big, big names have seen it now and they're, they're ordering them, you know? Um, I don't know. America's got talent, talent, you know, the, um, uh, Donna Cornell, she's a escape artist. She's big. She, she just put in her order and got one. I was already so far behind. I had to give her one that I'd already used one of the prototypes because I needed it right away. Um, but they're, they're loving it.

She's loving it because she that's her baby. That was her issue rape. So she does lot of, um, you know, schools and shows and like shows for that, but she's traveling. And so she could only show a video. Now she can actually go on stage and actually show a water escape in person and, uh, and, and do it. So she's super happy about it. You know, she's got other plans for it. I won't go into what they are, but she's taking my idea and also, you know, making it her own. Um, but for me, it actually came, the reason why I'm doing water escapes is I was in a car accident. And, um, they, uh, I, I've had lots of interesting things in my life. We can talk about some other ones, but this car accident, um, I was passed out in the back seat and the car flipped over into a swamp.

And I was held out of the water by my seatbelt. But, um, you know, it was, it was a very, uh, some bad things happened within that accident. Um, but I was saved, but I have a huge one. My biggest fear. Everybody has a, you know, what's your biggest fear. Cause like you do all this crazy stuff. What's your biggest fear to me is water. So I have a whole bunch of acts now that include water in my, in my show because for me it's healing, you know, I don't want to be, I've been subject to fear my entire life and I don't want to feel fear. I want to be able to come to accept that I have the fear and accept that I could die, but if I put everything safely in place, I won't so area. And that's the same with everything on my show.

It's like, I don't do these things to hurt myself. I don't do them to cause danger to myself. I'm doing it because I have that need to be dangerous, but I want to do it in a safe way. Right. So my putting my safety first is key. I actually, I put my safety third, we all know about safety, third word, your audience and your venue comes first than yourself and more safe because I put everything in place. Right. But I believe that for me, it's one of those things where if I faced some of the fears that I have, um, I'm also doing what I want for the audience and I'm giving them the chance to see that, Hey, it's okay to have fear. It's okay to, um, accept that we have these fears. This is what we do with them.

Graeme Reed: I think this is a great segue to kind of get into, um, the core of your backstory. Right.

Fenyx Fyre: A little bit. Um, because I know

Graeme Reed: On the, like when we listen to Magician podcast, we all have a very similar thing,

Fenyx Fyre: Ex story. I got to Magic kid as a kid, you know, that's kind of how that happens. Um, however yours is on the outside. What we see is we see someone that's, you know, like, uh, someone that's probably influenced by like a Rob som the movie, captain Spalding, maybe Branson and punk, rock music, clearly 10 and one shows, side show and things like that. However, you also have a backer, like you have an MBA too. That's correct. Right. I, um, did that while I got my, I actually did it online. Um, while I was, uh, um, stuck in my house for a while I had an accident, I say attack and I couldn't leave my house. So, um, I had a Puget Gore phobia and couldn't even leave for awhile. Um, there was, as you mentioned, a CBC article there that, uh, but I was attached here in my hometown and almost killed.

I took 17 kicks to my head, was laying in my own blood for, you know, begging for my life. And I'm sorry, my voice has changed their story. Um, but, uh, it's, uh, it changed me. Hi, I, I, for a while, I couldn't even, I lost myself for awhile. Um, I lost my identity, who I was, I didn't know how to survive at one point for a while there, um, I kind of gave up on life, you know, stopped paying bills, all that stuff, you know, just kind of, I wanted to die, um, because I was too afraid to live and, uh, you know, same with something on my childhood. I was raised, I mentioned I was raised to a witness and so a lot of trauma, um, I used to hide and escape a lot when I was about, so that's where I get my love of escape.

It's like, I, I don't ever want to feel that I'm, I don't have control or I need to hide anymore. I want people to see me. So part of that escaping is like, uh, I know, right. So same type of thing. So all my, my journey started though really though was when I was attacked and I, you know, it was like I was in my house and I'm like, I, I got to get out in the real world again, how am I going to do this? And I had already been like, I'd practice Fyre and I've been doing sideshow and stuff like that, but I gave it up while I was, you know, in, in that state of mind, you know, didn't care. And then it was like, okay. So I set up a show and work towards putting an act together and, you know, put everything in place.

And I went to that show. It was the hardest thing I could do because I was afraid to even leave the house. But now I'm in front of people and doing a first show in ages. And, uh, and it was really good because, uh, you know, I, I realized that, you know, in that moment, if I stayed in that moment, I was safe. But when you get into the, what ifs or the past, you know, that's where, you know, that we struggle with ourselves. So for me, it's like, I really focus on trying to stay in the moment. I have my bad days where I get into my head and, you know, um, we all, as performers, we all have a performer where we're, we think that we're terrible at what we do. You know, we all have that. So, but, and I get that too, but for me, it's, I just love getting on stage and seeing people's smile or seeing, you know, that fear behind the eyes or, you know, the throw up sound know, or the volume for me. I love that feeling, you know? Um, but I also don't do it to, to make them feel uncomfortable. I do it to make them realize that uncomfort is good. It can be healthy because I, I, for myself took my life. It was super uncomfortable. I was stuck in my own home and I decided this enough for me. And I'm going to put myself in an uncomfortable position so I can hear it's

Graeme Reed: Incredibly unique to hear that, um, your performance is, it creates the best version of you.

Fenyx Fyre: And at the same time, every piece of art that you're presenting on stage is a method of therapy, or actually one-on-one confronting your fears. You're probably the most nervous and afraid person in there yet in the most control at the same time. That's so fast.

Graeme Reed: I think a lot of us do when we see like a danger show, some of the, I mean, I know it from I'm a big pro-wrestling

Fenyx Fyre: Fan. So when people see hardcore wrestling, they're like, why did they do those stupid things? And when you hear the real story behind why people do these things, um, you see it as more of an art piece and not just, uh, an insane, yeah, I don't, I don't want to do stuff. I don't want to just do stuff. I know we talked about the, the new act that I, that I'm doing. I don't want to be just a sign. I want to have, I like having stories to it. I have in my show, it's like a guideline of Jiminy, do this. I'm going to do this. I'm going to do this. I'm working with the audience through it. But for me, it's, I want to give the message that, you know, um, you can, you can enjoy fear. You can enjoy pain, you can enjoy it and not enjoy it, but it's an acceptance of it.

Right. You know, people ask me, do you feel stuff? And I'm like, yeah, I do. To a point that like, physically, like you can punch me and I don't feel it, but the emotions of people, I feel it I'm an empath. Right? So I feel their pain. I feel their, I feel their sadness that they come into the room. I can pick that up in an audience and I want to focus on that person and bring them up and, you know, make them experience, you know, something that changed their day, you know, that's, and that's the same with why you do it. Probably, you know, it's like, you want, we don't do it too. We're not performers so that we can, you know, change, you know, we're not saving babies, we're not saving babies, but I can tell you I've saved some people's lives by what I do, because they've come up afterwards and said, you know what? And messaged me, you know, um, you know, seeing, you know, some of the stuff I do and the message I try to put out, you know, they said I've saved their lives. And I feel that's not my role, but I want to be able to be approachable as a performer. I want to be seen as a performer that is not, you know, unapproachable and is, uh, you know, I want to feel kind of, I want to connect with my audience. I want to know that they matter to me.

Graeme Reed: And I think you're so interesting because as someone that could also look to a lot of people as an honor,

Fenyx Fyre: Approachable person, right, you were one of the most friendliest and approachable people on the planet. Like you came up to me at that show in London, and I was excited to talk to you because you know, that you have interesting stories from, I mean, you were incredible badges that tell your story all over your, your Jean jackets and everything like that. Um, Oh, I'm so interested. I, out of your stunt, uh, your, um, pieces that you've done, um, obviously I know when I've asked you before, and you said you don't experience pain, but, um, what one has been the most difficult to perform on stage? I imagine something in that first show would have been difficult, but is there because you are creating these stents purely out of your own emotions and your own overcoming, the most painful for me was, uh, I lost my memory for three days when I did the cattle prod world record.

Whoa. Just cause there was so much electricity. I basically gave myself shot therapy and I had short term memory loss for about three days. Didn't hurt when I was doing it. But it was probably the most painful because I was scared after I thought I'd done serious damage. Um, so not so not really a pain thing, but it was more of a, an emotional, um, fear. Um, but pain-wise, um, the cinder block smash, um, that's where my there's a cinder block. I took the term blockhead and made it literal. Um, you know, a block is, and other than your head, I made it started a nail into the block and the block goes there. My head goes on nail and a sledgehammer comes down and smashes while the nails in my head. So there's so much you can go wrong with it. And it feels like you got punched in basically your brain when it happens. Like you feel that there's no ifs, ands or buts. It's one of those things where you just suck out that punch. It's like getting hit by Tyson.

So I'm like, that's like, it's one of those. If an app gotten very proud of it because I was able to take an age old, you know, historical sideshow act and make it my own. So I'm very proud of that one. Um, my razorblade jump is a big one that I that's, that's a lot of, cause a lot of emotion and fear for people because they recognize, you know, there's a lot of people with mental health even, or, or things like that, that they recognize how dangerous a razor can bleed B. Um, so that's a big one. Um, and cushion has always, you know, it has its moments where it can be dangerous. Um, actually you want to see my newest, one of my newest docs. Oh my gosh, are you going to show us something right now? Well, I won't do it, but I'm going to show you a problem. You know, the age old, uh, needle through the hand, um, as a secure app. Um, so the age of the age old it's been around for how long and then comes out. Well, what I did is take a needle. And so it goes through, but I also included a butane torch.

So needle goes to the Palm. I now have an ignition source and now I have a lit, a flame going in my Palm. Oh, you're going to be like a superhero. And then I do a Fyre rebound.

Graeme Reed: That is impressive and creative. And I don't even know how do you get the creative ideas

Fenyx Fyre: To like, so, I mean, we're, so what's your major influences when it comes to performance and creativity, do you look up to 10 and one acts and sideshow acts, other performers that you work with all the time? A lot of tending ones. Um, if you're, if you ever come to my house, there's Houdini is pretty much a prominent figure in my house. So he's a, he's a big influence on me. Um, I've got, uh, thanks to Jim burns. He always loves giving me Houdini books. Um, I've got some books here from, uh, I do a lot of reading. I read a lot and Aaron's is Papa Jimbo, correct? Papa GMO. Yeah. He's a big influence on me. Um, you know, I love how he mixes the dark arts with the, you know, Magic, but he's just an all around great guy, you know, super helpful.

Um, people like, uh, you don't escape world, uh, except Grossman Brunel, uh, Allen, James Taylor. He's a big one. He owns David devil Magic and escape ology, um, inside show people like, you know, um, well, that's a big one. There's so many, you know, in Canada or boxing pepper, um, in the States, you know, uh, straight outside show, um, you know, people like, uh, you know, Harley Newman, you know, I got to visit Harley and, you know, he was in my house and was teaching me. I had a surgery last year. I don't know if you heard about that, but, um, I've been trying to get back into sports while I had my highlight bone removed my, uh, port part of my tongue, my, uh, huge incision. I took out the mass. It was down into my neck and my shoulder.

So there was a 98% chance. I'd never talk again. Um, but you know, I wanted to, you know, get back into a Talking to store, to swallow again. So Harley took his time on ode, came down and see me. And we tried to get back into it. I'm still not successful, but, uh, you know, it's something I want to get back. It's something I, you know, uh, I was taking something taken away from me by sickness and I want to get that back. So, you know, so I've been working on it diligently. Um, but yeah, there's so many influences in, in this world. Uh, you know, I couldn't even name, you know, you know, man, there's so many, uh, yeah,

Graeme Reed: Finally the side show world, the tenant one world. So fascinating because in Magic world, we think it's so

Fenyx Fyre: Secretive yet. We're spoiling everything on YouTube and giving it away all the time, but still in 10 and one it's like, all those skills are still, you have to know someone to teach it to you. I've seen a lot of things on like mighty Mike's Instagram, where he actually goes out and meets the, the old, like the other metal benders. And they teach a technique and things like this, it's so fast. It's very magical. And for me, it's exciting as I've now got to the stage of my career, where I'm a mentor for people, you know, people come to me to teach them things or a big one is people come to me to give them an act right. To help them, you know, because I'm known in the industry and it wasn't, I didn't get it. I didn't say this is my title. This was given to me, I'm the innovator or insanity.

You know, I take things, Pedro tenant, one sideshow, and I make it modernized. Right. I make it into my own. And I like doing that for people as well. You know, I'm just like, you know, I actually talked to you because, you know, you, you actually, when I said, Hey, does somebody want in the Magic were the one to, uh, um, I see what I've kind of created with kind of including Magic plus still tenant one stuff. And you know, you know, I really appreciate you taking the time for me to, to, cause I'm not, I don't know. Magic right. I'm not, that's not my forte, but it excites me. I love it. And I understand a lot of it, but I also wanted somebody like you, that's in the industry to say, Hey, am I going, you know, is this, is this right? Or, you know, how should I do this better?

So, but it's like, I'm really happy with what I came up with. And I, like you said, I took it when I finished it. Uh, you know, it's like, I have that old classic, you know, using a four, six or equivocate and now, but actually adding technology into it. So, which is pretty cool. So, and it was all inspired by an auction piece that I found and I picked it up and uh, so they would want this, but what I'm doing with it is so block is like, usually it's you look at me, this is what I can do. And I wanted to change that. So what I have is basically one of the knives is going to have engraved on it. Uh, an item, more, a picture, something that can be picturize. I do a four, six or an equivocation. I get the knife. They want it comes out and you can see how sharp it is. Yeah. Right. It goes

Graeme Reed: 19 tests. Oh, you're doing it right now too. Oh, just like it's a butter knife

Fenyx Fyre: If gross. Not I wondering if it's actually the statement, but awful. Basically you have the, uh, the knife is the, whatever is engraved on it. So now I mentally picture it. They've had my phone or their phone for awhile. Right. So now I'm mentally picturing I, and I'm saying, I'm going to transfer my energy to you that comes out and that they read it out loud. And then I touched my body to them and I've come to the picture of what's on the knife, on their phone. Right. And you're not going to reveal how that part works at all. Right. I'm sure people have an idea, but,

Graeme Reed: But I don't think we want to dive into that. I feel like that's a special thing.

Fenyx Fyre: It's your own little special thing to wrap this up. Like we've learned from you that a big part of your therapy

Graeme Reed: P your art and self expression is clearly life

Fenyx Fyre: Performance. Like all of us, I mean, and a lot of us are dealing with, I would, I call it sad clown syndrome. Right. Um, how do you are very active, virtually you're doing a lot of virtual stuff, but how do you find, um, I've been finding myself doing a lot more home renovations to kind of keep my mind out of this. It's tough, but what are you finding works well for you? Or how do you get the stimulus for a show? Um, well, for me, I work out, you probably don't know that I work full time in a corporate job. Um, so I'm actually working from home. Um, but for me, creating, I've created a lot of stuff while I've been off. Um, you know, I'm working, I've got this really cool new, uh, escape that involves water and electricity that everybody knows that you shouldn't mix it too. Right. So I'm doing that. Um, I'll tell you about it later. It's pretty cool. And then I also am working, uh, creatively. I got approved to do, uh, the inverted straight jacket, web escape. This historically never been successfully done. Whoa. Okay.

Graeme Reed: So like, uh, you soak the straight jacket completely wet go in.

Fenyx Fyre: Yeah, I did. According to the Guinness guidelines out to be sold for three minutes in water. Um, so the jacket has to be through the, through the, our loop. So it's a S and I have to use a Posey jacket. So it's, it's going to be a tough one, like a real regulation, straight jacket. Magic over your head. Right. And I have to escape. I got three minutes. So I have to be inverted within 45 seconds and out in three minutes. Well,

Graeme Reed: Every even I've attempted a straitjacket escape at a friend's house once, and it's so strange, like, and you know, the, the Magician comedy

Fenyx Fyre: Stuff, I'm doing a real deal and soaked in water. Sounds very scary. Yeah. There's the real deal. And also it goes back to my fear of water. So that's why I, you know, I I'm, it's a big one for me. So I've been getting everything in place for that I need to, uh, we're still because everything's closed down and you have to do it in a public place and things like that. So, um, it's kind of on hold still, but it's one of those things. I've got everything in place. Everything is ready. I'm just waiting for, you know, to get it, get televised and then, uh, you know, everything in place for the venue. So I'm pretty excited about it, but everything has been, that's been kind of my focus. It's like, okay, let's work on this project, but I'm pretty out of curiosity when you do it, um,

Graeme Reed: An event like that, how do you train

Fenyx Fyre: For the most part with a wet, straight jacket? Is that, um, stamina, weightlifting? Um, just due today. I actually, uh, I don't know if you saw, but I actually, there's a video of where I, cause I live alone now. Right. So I actually learned how to put a straight jacket on myself. So it's pretty fun video to watch. Cause it's a lot harder. I will tell you, this is a lie hurt you and straight jacket by yourself and to get out of that makes sense. That makes sense. I think, but I was able to do it. And so now it's like, I can practice a little bit more. Um, but uh, yeah, for me, it's the live thing has been really hard. I, I really love, I did a show recently and, um, the silence was, what if it was the silence, right? When you do something and you don't hear the, the gasps or the, the, Oh my God.

Right? So that's what I struggle with. And I feel it makes, I struggled. He's like, dude, I do a good job. Like, and, but my goal as a performer now is to take it. And then the world we live in is like, you know what? I need to be confident in what I need to know that what I'm doing. I do it well, and that's not bragging or anything, but it's doing it because my audience wants to see that they want, and they need an escape right now. Just like I escaped from a straight jacket. They need to escape from their mundane, you know, being all the, you know, terrible things that we're seeing, you know, in, in the world right now. It's just crazy. People want to escape from it even for five minutes. So that's my goal to keep that in my head, it's like, my job is to help them escape just as I'm escaping my life.

Graeme Reed: Have you been doing the interactive virtual, like a zoom show? What are the audiences right in on the show and everything. Are you doing more of the broadcast at it?

Fenyx Fyre: Um, I'm doing all of them really. I've done the zoom show other than the broadcast. Um, I use stream art string yard a lot, which I, as a performer, um, highly suggest if you're doing this way more interactive than zoom, um, for the different channels. So I'm using that a lot. So if you, if anybody needs help with how to, how to work with streaming art, just reach out to me and I'll gladly to help them. Um, but I like it cause there's a backstage where you can have performers and get everybody ready. You see your smiling. He's probably used to it a bit. Um, I've only

Graeme Reed: but if you're doing something on like a Facebook page or you need, it is

Fenyx Fyre: Very incredible and right.

Graeme Reed: How it works, I actually do all my stuff. I'm an ops guy,

Fenyx Fyre: You know, I'm doing stuff. I'm doing it too complicated over here. Yeah. Yeah. For me, I, you know, I, I, my goal too is drain while I'm down is I'd like to start a talk show called the stranger danger talk show and incorporate some of the things I like, you know, like talking to other performers to be like, you know how they're coming up with new acts. Um, I'm a hot sauce, efficient auto. So I would have a hot sauce review. But when I do my hot sauce reviews, I do it my way. So, you know, I, you know, I did a live, a hot sauce festival and I did a water escape while feeding the hottest gummy bears while it's chewing on these tilt. Cause you're, you're not for reactions. You want to open your mouth, right.

Graeme Reed: I'm just thinking of this. Cause there's a bit of a brainstorm. Have you been like stapled because you do the stapler

Fenyx Fyre: And then has someone missed it to you with hot sauce? The vinegary hot sauce? Not yet, but that's good. I did do the, uh, did the world record for the Carolina reapers from the host in my eyes. Have you have you've eaten those peppers obviously, too. Um, that's so fascinating. That's that's very cool.

Graeme Reed: Well, I want to see your talk show happen. I want to say that.

Fenyx Fyre: And soon I hope after this it's really, you put it in. I was actually having a conversation last night about it and it was just honestly, the biggest thing is, and it's something that I, it goes back to facing the fears. I'm afraid to fail. You know, it's like, I worked so hard and then it's like, you know, are my, I won't lie right now. My identity is a bit lost. Right. As a performer. It's like, I, you know, it's like, I'm trying to navigate it, but also at the same time, I'm like, you know, it's something I would enjoy. But at the same time, I won't lie. I'm not gonna lie. I have fear because, you know, um, am I interesting enough to be able to do that? And I know that sounds crazy, but that's how I feel about myself. Right. I do all these interesting things, but I don't see it in myself sometimes to me, it's just like, yeah, I can do these things.

I learned them, you know, but one of the things that I'm working on about myself, it's like, I'm going to own this. Um, but when I did the world records, I was just like, Oh, I would do like, I've done that one. What's next. I don't do that one. What's next, but I didn't actually own the own them. Right. I don't even, you know, I have one record on my wall and that's cause I want the performer of the year award for, so, um, in 2016, that's the only one that's on my wall to me. I didn't do them to, for the, to say I have world records. I did them because it was a way to get me out of my house and to survive. It was healing. And then, but now I have to be proud of that healing. I think, I think

Graeme Reed: You are one of the most interesting people I've ever gotten to chat with. And like we've only been chatting for

Fenyx Fyre: Like, I dunno, 30 minutes, possibly more I've you have to make this show. I think people need to hear more about you. Plus the people that you know about. I think the, just the culture that you're involved in is something that more people need to be aware about and to hear the amazing, unique stories of all of you. And my goal is to, you know, the mental health, health aspect of it. You know, I'd like to have a forum where people can feel safe to talk about it. Right. That's a huge part of people. Everybody you can't tell me that there's nobody, there's not one person in the world that doesn't suffer from either anxiety, mental health, um, PTSD. Like everybody suffers in their own way, but people are afraid to talk about it or own it. You know, for me, it's like I used to hide it. I don't hide it anymore because I'm hiding, I'm hiding myself. And my goal is to be seen and heard. So there's other people, I'm sure they're out there, but they just don't have a forum to be able to do that. So that's kind of why I want to do it, you know, and plus there's so many interesting people in the world too.

Graeme Reed: It's yeah, it's great. It'd be great to get your message and your enthusiasm across. I mean, that's kind of why we do the podcast. Every introduction I do. I say I'm an Graemazing and I left a 10 year career in television broadcasting to pursue my childhood passion, being a Magician. And that's kind of like my statement because I left, like I really gave up all that stuff to do this because I, I don't talk about really the wise ever, but I mean, we're in a, we've really opened up here, but I was dealing with a lot of workplace bullying and things like corporate bullying and I had been completely gassed and all my confidence was blown. So I had to leave the industry. Like I did not enjoy it anymore, even to the point where now, you know, where things are dicey and we're looking at possible alternatives for part time work.

I don't have even the intent to go back to TV. I would rather detail cars or paint someone's house, do something peaceful that I enjoy instead of go back to that toxic planet. Um, and I think that's what I think it would be important. And I think also us doing these shows now because there's a lot of messages that need to get out there. Like things like black lives matter mental health issues. And if we can get these messages across in an entertaining and engaging way, instead of like an abrasive and it gets everyone's feathers in a, uh, you know, turned up, then we are one step closer to getting those messages across. I think he would be a great ambassador for all these important messages for everybody. Chris, I wanna thank you so much for being a guest on the podcast today. If people are interested in learning more about you, you have a huge amount of products from me on your website, even on Threadless, uh, hit us up with your plugs.

Uh, so, um, Fenyx Effie NYX, F Y R I'm on Facebook. There's, Fenyx, Fyre obviously at the NYX FYI, Ari. There's a, um, my stranger dangers real show, uh, page as well. I really don't maintain those as well as I should just because I don't know. I, I kinda, everybody knows me as me now. I kinda just do it from my main page because I think for me, all my stuff incorporates me. I try and, you know, I have separate identities, but I do that. But then I, um, but my friend list is, uh, uh, Threadless at the NYX F Larry. And there's lots of great products on there as well. You can get bedsheets with my face, I'm joking, but yeah. Um, and then we have our comic books that I was a part of too. It's called a sideshow of psychosis. Um, and you can order those on Comixology. Um, it's just, uh, I'll actually send you a, uh, a copy of, uh, a digital copy after. Um, so you've got one. She can read it. Oh, cool. Rock and roll. Thank you so much. But yeah, just, uh, I'm having fun and trying to be the best version of me. I can be. I have a lot of work to do on myself and I accept that. And if anybody, if anybody has the listeners, if they ever need somebody to talk to that, they just don't feel comfortable. I'm always here. Just reach out to me, please. You know, I'd rather take the time for you. And, uh, I know that you appreciated as well.

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